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Kind of surprised there isn't a thread about her. Actually, I'm really not being that some of you seem to take pride in ridiculing female basketball.

Maybe I should have put this on the Republicans Soul thread?

Gutter was getting jealous of Illys summer.

I didn't know she despises America. Guess I'll have to take these tweeter's words for it.

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:01 am Gutter was getting jealous of Illys summer.

"rent free"

we kind of discussed in some other thread but prob deserves its own.

As much as anything, Griner is a political prisoner; a pawn in a war game. It sucks! I feel for her. major league wrong place/wrong time, and it's a shame.

those tweets are so almost getting it, yet completely missing the point. But almost getting it!

cuz if you wanna lecture a black person about oppressive systems, particularly in the context of things like marijuana arrests, in the United States, lulz.

Why is it wrong place wrong time? She tried to take drugs into another country.

Just an absolutely stupid thing to do. Especially in Russia.

I believe the United States's position is that Griner was wrongfully detained.

IMO, that should play a more significant role in the narrative around the situation.

There are actual falsely-imprisoned Americans in Russia and Griner is not one of them. She's probably getting screwed, but she knowingly broke the law in Russia...this shit is on her.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:17 am Why is it wrong place wrong time? She tried to take drugs into another country.

Just an absolutely stupid thing to do. Especially in Russia.

100% agree it was a stupid thing to do. 100% feel some form of punishment is justifiable - she broke a law.
100% feel it's wrong for people to take joy in her arrest and conviction (for a non-violent crime that hurt no one) because of her race, gender, sexual orientation, and her frustration with oppression in the United States.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:31 am
100% feel it's wrong for people to take joy in her arrest and conviction (for a non-violent crime that hurt no one) because of her race, gender, sexual orientation, and her frustration with oppression in the United States.

Agree 100%. It's pathetic and predictable.

Put me in the boat that it's hard to feel bad for her. She knew the current climate with Russia vs the rest of the world. It's also not her first time there, so it's not like she can plead ignorance to a law they have. A law that legit probably every country ass. Wonder if the White House as been in contact with Marc Fogel and his family. I suppose Iman Shumpert is being "wrongfully detained" in Texas for trying to bring drugs on a plane too.

That being said, 9 years is beyond extensive. That is 100% political even though smuggling charges are nothing to take lightly.

And of course there's the crowd saying she wouldn't have to go to Russia for money if the WNBA paid her more. Like she doesn't already make 7x the average American income. Wrong person, wrong place, wrong time, and the whole situation being completely avoidable can all be true.

I'm around where ND is but do feel bad for her despite a really really dumb move trying to bring drugs into a country like Russia.

9+ years is ridiculous.

I think she'll be exchanged within a year.

I would even say by the end of the year. Wasn't the big hang up being she hadn't been sentenced yet. Now trading a weed smoking basketball player for a "Merchant of Death" is another thing.

there's people in the US serving time for marijuana too

Russia has been asking for dangerous war criminals in exchange for Griner. if the united states makes that trade, it is one of the absolute dumbest moves I've ever seen

but Biden's approval rating is in the gutter. and he is dumb enough to do it

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:31 pm Russia has been asking for dangerous war criminals in exchange for Griner. if the united states makes that trade, it is one of the absolute dumbest moves I've ever seen

but Biden's approval rating is in the gutter. and he is dumb enough to do it

It's harsh, but part of me agrees.

The US will trade the "Merchant of Death" for her so she can come back and talk more shit on the country that just saved her ass.

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:27 pm there's people in the US serving time for marijuana too

Right. Now tell us how many are serving time for ONLY having a vape pen cartridge of cannabis oil.
Once again, I am NOT defending her for what she did. What she did was stupid and wrong.

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:31 pm Russia has been asking for dangerous war criminals in exchange for Griner. if the united states makes that trade, it is one of the absolute dumbest moves I've ever seen

but Biden's approval rating is in the gutter. and he is dumb enough to do it

How do you know what Russia has been asking for?
Who in the Russian government that has any say in a "deal" has publicly stated what they want in exchange?

What is the penalty for foreigners who bring marijuana across the US border? If Griner is part of a prisoner swap, is it not fair to expect her to receive that penalty?