We Lost the Battle for the Libertarian Party's Soul Long Ago

[japhy]

What a bunch of drama queens.

https://reason.com/2021/06/23/inside-th ... ian-party/

[jfish26]

What a bunch of drama queens.

https://reason.com/2021/06/23/inside-th ... ian-party/

This is illustrative of the nihilist MAGA’s approach to institutions: they are there to be co-opted* into vehicles for advancing far right culture war nonsense.

* One might say “weaponized.” Every accusation…

[japhy]

Of course the liberals accuse them of racism, cuz that is what they always do to their opponents. They won't debate the merit of ideas and policies.

https://reason.com/2022/05/29/mises-cau ... ian-party/

[japhy]

Nope, nuthin racist to see here.

https://www.rawstory.com/mlk-day/

[randylahey]

Now do one for democrats it'll be epic

[japhy]

Wait, so you're telling me the angry freedum libertarian ( with a small L ) rubes have been funded/manipulated by the trumpertarians? Say it ain't so!

But this might explain why some "libertarians" spend so much time defending trump.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-right ... heres-why/

[Overlander]

Now do one for democrats it'll be epic

Isn’t that your pet project?

[japhy]

"It is an infantile fantasy of godlike self-sufficiency. "

The fuck you say?

https://andrewkoppelman.com/burning-down-the-house-qa/

[KUTradition]

Now do one for democrats it'll be epic

Isn’t that your pet project?

Do your own research it’s there if you look

[japhy]

The new alt right libertarian manifesto.....

[TDub]

the alt right arent libertarians, they just want to rebrand themselves because their brand is failing...

[jfish26]

the alt right arent libertarians, they just want to rebrand themselves because their brand is failing...

Correct. They're parasites. They'll move from host to host.

[Sparko]

My SIL and BIL are well-armed Libertarian Christo-fascists with no sense of irony: Libertarianism was founded as a joke principle turning the Beatitudes on its head. Blessed are the rich. Etc. Wrecks families.

[TDub]

I would also argue that anyone who could be considered a Christo fascists....or who has strong religion and/or religious requirements or exhibits any fascists leanings. .

again....isn't Libertarian.

This thread is having a hard time distinguishing what libertarian means.

[TDub]

Libertarian has become a weird catch all denomination for anyone on the extremes.....but, that isn't correct.

[jfish26]

Agree - but that's sort of what this thread is about. The MAGAs are twisting Libertarian principles (and using their name) to support their push for Christo-fascist autocracy. And actual Libertarians should be pissed!

[japhy]

Agree - but that's sort of what this thread is about. The MAGAs are twisting Libertarian principles (and using their name) to support their push for Christo-fascist autocracy. And actual Libertarians should be pissed!

It's like you read the links before you posted!

good job good post

Randall would prefer you not read the links.

[TDub]

Agree - but that's sort of what this thread is about. The MAGAs are twisting Libertarian principles (and using their name) to support their push for Christo-fascist autocracy. And actual Libertarians should be pissed!

I dont know that I'm a true libertarian either...but it is upsetting that people like this are calling themselves libertarian and/or getting lumped in with that group. That is not at all what the platform is or has ever been. In fact I'd say its probably, in theory, the most inclusive platform out there.

[japhy]

Agree - but that's sort of what this thread is about. The MAGAs are twisting Libertarian principles (and using their name) to support their push for Christo-fascist autocracy. And actual Libertarians should be pissed!

I dont know that I'm a true libertarian either...but it is upsetting that people like this are calling themselves libertarian and/or getting lumped in with that group. That is not at all what the platform is or has ever been. In fact I'd say its probably, in theory, the most inclusive platform out there.

The conservative platform in it's pure form has good points, but the term "conservative" now has been twisted to be MAGA. Part of the MAGA cult has branched off and has now taken over the Libertarian Party as those articles in links describe. They have not only co opted the name of the party, but actually taken over the party structure and turned it into something that does not reflect the original ideals.

[Sparko]

There was never anything to Libertarianism. It was a dodge for people who didn't want to admit they enabled McCarthy or Trump. Koch funded exploitation of people pretending they are freedom seekers. Who deny it to others. Going Galt to spite humanity. Selfishness worship. One can project a lot of things on the label, but Rand created pretty clearly a different religion.