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Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:17 am
by ousdahl
…No Longer True

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/18/busi ... china.html

While the world’s eyes were on the pandemic, China and the war in Ukraine, the paths to prosperity and shared interests have grown murkier.

(Dangit why does this gotta be behind a paywall)

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:39 am
by DCHawk1
You're welcome -- although it's only worth the read for the lulz...

https://dnyuz.com/2023/06/18/why-it-see ... nger-true/

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:19 pm
by Sparko
Business ownership has been a solid path for wealth by those who can work hard. Still is. Monitor the changes in demand, young man.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:17 pm
by MICHHAWK
if you take your vitamins and say your prayers and do your exercises and work hard and stay out of trouble you can be whatever you want to be in this great country. there are no limits. there are no boundaries.

the same cannot be said for most of the rest of the world. and i say the hell with most of the rest of the world. they are just riding our coattails anywho.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:05 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:17 pm if you take your vitamins and say your prayers and do your exercises and work hard and stay out of trouble you can be whatever you want to be in this great country. there are no limits. there are no boundaries.
Lots and lots of people here in this country would not tell you they agree.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:09 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:17 pm if you take your vitamins and say your prayers and do your exercises and work hard and stay out of trouble you can be whatever you want to be in this great country. there are no limits. there are no boundaries.

the same cannot be said for most of the rest of the world. and i say the hell with most of the rest of the world. they are just riding our coattails anywho.
That's just flat out bullshit. The odds that you can be become "whatever you want" if you are born to two people from the inner city, one of whom is in prison for decades on a BS possession charge that a wealthy white person can get out of entirely thanks to being able to afford great legal representation (thanks to inheriting money from previous generations of ancestors who were actually legally allowed to own land and vote for their best interests) and a mother who falls into addiction due to the struggles of working three jobs to make ends meet because they cannot get enough government assistance (thanks to cushy suburbanites not wanting their tax dollars go to the mythical "welfare queens") while never being around to help her kid do well in their crappy, underfunded school are astronomically small.

Just because YOU could doesn't mean that everyone has the same opportunity. Just everyone raised LIKE YOU. So kindly fuck off with that cushy white bread bullshit.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:14 pm
by MICHHAWK
thats awesome.

this place brings out the best in you.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:22 pm
by KUTradition
blah blah blah

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:23 pm
by KUTradition
and dolo wonders why SOME posters get called names

smfh

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:35 pm
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:09 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:17 pm if you take your vitamins and say your prayers and do your exercises and work hard and stay out of trouble you can be whatever you want to be in this great country. there are no limits. there are no boundaries.

the same cannot be said for most of the rest of the world. and i say the hell with most of the rest of the world. they are just riding our coattails anywho.
That's just flat out bullshit. The odds that you can be become "whatever you want" if you are born to two people from the inner city, one of whom is in prison for decades on a BS possession charge that a wealthy white person can get out of entirely thanks to being able to afford great legal representation (thanks to inheriting money from previous generations of ancestors who were actually legally allowed to own land and vote for their best interests) and a mother who falls into addiction due to the struggles of working three jobs to make ends meet because they cannot get enough government assistance (thanks to cushy suburbanites not wanting their tax dollars go to the mythical "welfare queens") while never being around to help her kid do well in their crappy, underfunded school are astronomically small.

Just because YOU could doesn't mean that everyone has the same opportunity. Just everyone raised LIKE YOU. So kindly fuck off with that cushy white bread bullshit.
There are a number of things we could do to make MICH’s post closer to reality.

Of course, they are not things that are spoken highly of on Fox.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:09 pm
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:35 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:09 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:17 pm if you take your vitamins and say your prayers and do your exercises and work hard and stay out of trouble you can be whatever you want to be in this great country. there are no limits. there are no boundaries.

the same cannot be said for most of the rest of the world. and i say the hell with most of the rest of the world. they are just riding our coattails anywho.
That's just flat out bullshit. The odds that you can be become "whatever you want" if you are born to two people from the inner city, one of whom is in prison for decades on a BS possession charge that a wealthy white person can get out of entirely thanks to being able to afford great legal representation (thanks to inheriting money from previous generations of ancestors who were actually legally allowed to own land and vote for their best interests) and a mother who falls into addiction due to the struggles of working three jobs to make ends meet because they cannot get enough government assistance (thanks to cushy suburbanites not wanting their tax dollars go to the mythical "welfare queens") while never being around to help her kid do well in their crappy, underfunded school are astronomically small.

Just because YOU could doesn't mean that everyone has the same opportunity. Just everyone raised LIKE YOU. So kindly fuck off with that cushy white bread bullshit.
There are a number of things we could do to make MICH’s post closer to reality.

Of course, they are not things that are spoken highly of on Fox.
He got all his info on this topic from the "you can do anything" talks parents give their kids when they are 8.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:11 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:14 pm thats awesome.

this place brings out the best in you.
Would you feel better if I pat you on the head, send you virtually cookie and say "Bless Your Heart"?

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:34 pm
by DCHawk1
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:35 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:09 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:17 pm if you take your vitamins and say your prayers and do your exercises and work hard and stay out of trouble you can be whatever you want to be in this great country. there are no limits. there are no boundaries.

the same cannot be said for most of the rest of the world. and i say the hell with most of the rest of the world. they are just riding our coattails anywho.
That's just flat out bullshit. The odds that you can be become "whatever you want" if you are born to two people from the inner city, one of whom is in prison for decades on a BS possession charge that a wealthy white person can get out of entirely thanks to being able to afford great legal representation (thanks to inheriting money from previous generations of ancestors who were actually legally allowed to own land and vote for their best interests) and a mother who falls into addiction due to the struggles of working three jobs to make ends meet because they cannot get enough government assistance (thanks to cushy suburbanites not wanting their tax dollars go to the mythical "welfare queens") while never being around to help her kid do well in their crappy, underfunded school are astronomically small.

Just because YOU could doesn't mean that everyone has the same opportunity. Just everyone raised LIKE YOU. So kindly fuck off with that cushy white bread bullshit.
There are a number of things we could do to make MICH’s post closer to reality.

Of course, they are not things that are spoken highly of on Fox.
Do tell.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm
by jfish26
DCHawk1 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:34 pm
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:35 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:09 pm

That's just flat out bullshit. The odds that you can be become "whatever you want" if you are born to two people from the inner city, one of whom is in prison for decades on a BS possession charge that a wealthy white person can get out of entirely thanks to being able to afford great legal representation (thanks to inheriting money from previous generations of ancestors who were actually legally allowed to own land and vote for their best interests) and a mother who falls into addiction due to the struggles of working three jobs to make ends meet because they cannot get enough government assistance (thanks to cushy suburbanites not wanting their tax dollars go to the mythical "welfare queens") while never being around to help her kid do well in their crappy, underfunded school are astronomically small.

Just because YOU could doesn't mean that everyone has the same opportunity. Just everyone raised LIKE YOU. So kindly fuck off with that cushy white bread bullshit.
There are a number of things we could do to make MICH’s post closer to reality.

Of course, they are not things that are spoken highly of on Fox.
Do tell.
Take, for example, universal Pre-K (or even preschool). One of many, many, many things that would truly make it possible, or at least more plausible, for people to move up the class ladder.

But, costing money and helping poor (and, disproportionately, not-white) people, you won't find much Fox support.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:15 am
by jfish26

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:13 am
by ousdahl
Holy shit, I’ve only posted the article so far, yet this thread already going Qusdahl

And to think, DC tried to say it was only worth the read for the lulz

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:19 am
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:34 pm
jfish26 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:35 pm

There are a number of things we could do to make MICH’s post closer to reality.

Of course, they are not things that are spoken highly of on Fox.
Do tell.
Take, for example, universal Pre-K (or even preschool). One of many, many, many things that would truly make it possible, or at least more plausible, for people to move up the class ladder.

But, costing money and helping poor (and, disproportionately, not-white) people, you won't find much Fox support.
Universal Pre-K is just babysitting. Few kids are learning anything before the age of 5 or 6 that matter. Spend that money on making all of our elementary, middle and high schools better and then figure out how to supplement day care for those who need it. Keep giving kids free school lunches. Make education a more desirable career path (AKA more $$$) so that the bottom of the pool of young talent isn't choosing it as a career.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:55 am
by KUTradition
i think they’re learning plenty at that age, given the right environment

they may not be learning classic “school” sorts of things, but they’re definitely learning important social skills

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:29 am
by Shirley
KUTradition wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:55 am i think they’re learning plenty at that age, given the right environment

they may not be learning classic “school” sorts of things, but they’re definitely learning important social skills
^^^

It depends on the quality of the preschool, but the benefits of the socialization process alone is enormous. Kids who attend preschool learn how to learn, and start kindergarten ahead of kids who don't.

The benefits are greater for low-income children, perhaps because their homes don't accommodate, encourage, facilitate learning as well as higher income homes, and are especially beneficial for kids from dual-language homes.

Re: Why It Seems Everything We Knew About the Global Economy Is

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:35 am
by jhawks99
My granddaughter is 4. She knows all of her numbers, letters and speaks fluent Spanish. Pretty good pre K start.

Anecdotal, I know. But more kids could benefit from something like this.