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It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:01 pm
by Shirley
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:04 pm
by Shirley
Meta. PayPal. X. All of these tech companies have made attempts at a “super app” in the U.S., following the success of WeChat in China, but have yet to get one off the ground. Tech leaders have struggled to combine elements like social media, messaging, payment and more into one place. So what’s holding the U.S. back from having a super app available?
WSJ explains why, despite challenges, companies still see it as their holy grail product.
Why It's So Hard for Meta, PayPal and X to Build a Super App Like WeChat | WSJ
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:07 pm
by KUTradition
it’ll hit anti-trust issues if it ever comes to fruition, just like google and amazon (and others)
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:26 pm
by Shirley
KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:07 pm
it’ll hit anti-trust issues if it ever comes to fruition, just like google and amazon (and others)
^^^
Speaking of which, watch this and see what you think about Amazon being a "monopoly".
10/4/23 FTC Takes on Amazon | Prof G Markets
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:06 pm
by JKLivin
We've been in a recession for almost two years now, save for politically-motivated semantics games.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:09 pm
by jhawks99
Someone copy me to tell psych he's wrong again. Coward blocked me.
a period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters.
"the country is in the depths of a recession"
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:10 pm
by Shirley
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:06 pm
We've been in a recession for almost two years now, save for politically-motivated semantics games.
I kinda started this thread over here instead of the politics forum for a reason, but considering how far down the cultist hole you are, it comes as no surprise that you have nothing else to offer.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:11 pm
by Shirley
Pro tip, 99, if you want Psych to get it, don't make your post so complicated:
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:09 pm
Someone copy me to tell psych he's wrong again. Coward blocked me.
a period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters.
"the country is in the depths of a recession"
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:06 am
by jfish26
The monster I’m seeing around the corner is what will happen if/when a major reinsurer (the companies that insure the insurance companies) fails, most likely due to a massive wave or flood (sorry) of P&C claims arising out of weather events that used to be, but no longer are, extraordinary.
The economic effects alone will be devastating, and the social ramifications are quite significant as well - it would seem that we’ll either (1) have a massive federal bailout of insurance companies (resulting in, more or less, the government (us) insuring homes in high-risk areas), or (2) tell people in high-risk areas that they’re on their own.
Either way you’ll see a lot of intra-US migration, from red to blue, which will have its own knock-on issues.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:34 am
by ousdahl
I heard there’s a major housing market crash coming this winter, or sooner
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:42 am
by JKLivin
Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:10 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:06 pm
We've been in a recession for almost two years now, save for politically-motivated semantics games.
I kinda started this thread over here instead of the politics forum for a reason, but considering how far down the cultist hole you are, it comes as no surprise that you have nothing else to offer.
Stop complaining and put me on IGNORE, bro. I'm tired of your bitching.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:46 am
by japhy
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:06 am
The monster I’m seeing around the corner is what will happen if/when a major reinsurer (the companies that insure the insurance companies) fails, most likely due to a massive wave or flood (sorry) of P&C claims arising out of weather events that used to be, but no longer are, extraordinary.
The economic effects alone will be devastating, and the social ramifications are quite significant as well - it would seem that we’ll either (1) have a massive federal bailout of insurance companies (resulting in, more or less, the government (us) insuring homes in high-risk areas), or (2) tell people in high-risk areas that they’re on their own.
Either way you’ll see a lot of intra-US migration, from red to blue, which will have its own knock-on issues.
I see this as one of the big future financial issues. It has already started with insurance companies pulling out of CA and FL. We will get to see the difference in how Newsom and DeSantis approach the problem, and the results, soon.
I don't worry too much about recessions as they are temporary financial hiccups. The shift from the issue above will probably be permanent. The middle class will take the biggest hit as this will reduce property values and that is the group with much of their wealth in their homes.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:33 am
by Sparko
Speaking of ignore, a lot of partisans of a particular stripe ignored us into this crisis faster than forecasted.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:46 am
by japhy
The good news is that the younger generation is catching onto this shift. And maybe that the boomers don't figure to live long enough to suffer the consequences.
I am looking at you, you old fucks with all of your medical issues that make you too feeble to be my friends any more.
Anyway this is interesting.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-envir ... isk-study/
My go-to website for residential real estate is redfin. Your have to scroll down past the schools and other info but these ratings are shown on their listings now.
https://www.redfin.com/guides/climate-c ... ethodology
When we started looking for property in the Empire a marital debate broke out. Annie wanted to be "in the mountains and trees" because she thought that was the point of living in Colorado. Her point of view was Minnesota Lake Country and her ideal was a "lake cabin". This was aspirational as her family never had a lake cabin. They did for awhile have a "lake shack". Her father being an industrious if not ethical sort once claimed a very small rocky "island" in a large lake and put up a premanufactured shed building on it and built bunk beds and the family spent summers there. Eventually the State of MN came calling and asking wtf? The cabin burnt to the ground under mysterious circumstances, but it was simpler than dismantling and hauling it out of the National Forest I guess.
I was in favor of owning a home on the plain with a view of the mountains and trees. One of our early trips out there a wildfire occurred near La Veta Pass and closed Highway 160, one of only two routes into the valley from the east. We were 50 miles away and it was this huge monster on the horizon every day. It was then that my pragmatism won out. We go to the mountains and hang out in the trees any time we want, it is only a 15 minute drive.
And as I splained it, living in the desert is like living on a huge lake of sand.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:03 am
by japhy
Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:33 am
Speaking of ignore, a lot of partisans of a particular stripe ignored us into this crisis faster than forecasted.
Footdragging on everyone's part was inevitable. My take on the "faster" part is that predictive models were off and shit happens faster than we can update models. I only model building frames in computer simulations and the results are still only predictive of behavior to within 10%, maybe. And that is a simple system with few variables. I can't imagine trying to model a system as big as a planet and consider all of the variables and make accurate predictions of behavior.
But they did, but the timeline seems to be compressing. We have all been warned. What you do with the info is up to you. This is shaping up to potentially be the most massive socio-economic crises in history.
Possibly more consequential than the LGBTQ Groomer Agenda!
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:07 am
by Shirley
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:42 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:10 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:06 pm
We've been in a recession for almost two years now, save for politically-motivated semantics games.
I kinda started this thread over here instead of the politics forum for a reason, but considering how far down the cultist hole you are, it comes as no surprise that you have nothing else to offer.
Stop complaining and put me on IGNORE, bro. I'm tired of your bitching.
Sorry to see you're cycling again, Psych.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:09 am
by JKLivin
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:07 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:42 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:10 pm
I kinda started this thread over here instead of the politics forum for a reason, but considering how far down the cultist hole you are, it comes as no surprise that you have nothing else to offer.
Stop complaining and put me on IGNORE, bro. I'm tired of your bitching.
Sorry to see you're cycling again, Psych.
I'm not upset. I just hate to see you getting so irritated for no reason. I'm not going anywhere; you're not going anywhere. Do yourself a favor and remove the source of the problem. There's no shame in it.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:18 am
by Shirley
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:09 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:07 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:42 am
Stop complaining and put me on IGNORE, bro. I'm tired of your bitching.
Sorry to see you're cycling again, Psych.
I'm not upset. I just had to see you getting so irritated for no reason. I'm not going anywhere; you're not going anywhere. Do yourself a favor and remove the source of the problem. There's no shame in it.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:21 am
by JKLivin
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:18 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:09 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:07 am
Sorry to see you're cycling again, Psych.
I'm not upset. I just had to see you getting so irritated for no reason. I'm not going anywhere; you're not going anywhere. Do yourself a favor and remove the source of the problem. There's no shame in it.
My bad. Please enlighten me.
Re: It's Only (Your?) Money
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:51 am
by Shirley
japhy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:46 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:06 am
The monster I’m seeing around the corner is what will happen if/when a major reinsurer (the companies that insure the insurance companies) fails, most likely due to a massive wave or flood (sorry) of P&C claims arising out of weather events that used to be, but no longer are, extraordinary.
The economic effects alone will be devastating, and the social ramifications are quite significant as well - it would seem that we’ll either (1) have a massive federal bailout of insurance companies (resulting in, more or less, the government (us) insuring homes in high-risk areas), or (2) tell people in high-risk areas that they’re on their own.
Either way you’ll see a lot of intra-US migration, from red to blue, which will have its own knock-on issues.
I see this as one of the big future financial issues. It has already started with insurance companies pulling out of CA and FL. We will get to see the difference in how Newsom and DeSantis approach the problem, and the results, soon.
I don't worry too much about recessions as they are temporary financial hiccups. The shift from the issue above will probably be permanent. The middle class will take the biggest hit as this will reduce property values and that is the group with much of their wealth in their homes.
^^^
Jamie Dimon’s (CEO of JPM) definition of
a financial crisis is “something that happens every five to seven years.”
Living at 11' above sea level ~ ½ mile from the ocean, I worry about
"massive wave or flood (sorry) of P&C claims arising out of weather events that used to be, but no longer are, extraordinary", all the time.
When money was nearly free, (ZIRP, zero interest rate policy), and people were incentivized to move to FL where they could be outside year around, the value of my house on paper more than doubled in less than 4 years. My (only child) daughter and granddaughters, (only grands) are here and I have to live somewhere, so I've never given the increased value much thought. But now that borrowing money costs more and the weather risks > insurance > replacement costs are soaring, I'm sure those days are over.
Thankfully, now that the ravages of climate change are so obvious, I'm sure Americans will recognize the need to change, make the requisite changes and sacrifice, and things will be back to normal in not time.