Kansas Crimson

Would we (you) be sad? Nervous? Relieved? What?

I think I’d be most PDub about it (meh).

Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

As long as it wouldn't keep Bidunga from coming, I'd like to have Hunter back.

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:48 pm Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

Self can't do the impossible. Hunter is unplayable on defense because he is so slow. He does fine 1 on 1 on the block, but pull him out and put him in the pick and roll and he's useless

And the way KU plays help defense, hunters slow mobility puts the whole team out of position trying to help him recover

That sums up why we gave up so many open shots all season

I hope Self learned his lesson and never recruits another center that can't rotate on defense. The number one job of a center is to anchor the defense and protect the rim. Hunter doesn't do that

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:48 pm Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

I am totally flummoxed to hear people say that. Not necessarily because Hunter is the best Big ever, but especially since neither Udeh/Ejiofor distinguished themselves this year.

byee

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:52 pm

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:48 pm Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

I am totally flummoxed to hear people say that. Not necessarily because Hunter is the best Big ever, but especially since neither Udeh/Ejiofor distinguished themselves this year.

We scored 9pts in like 16min of the biggest game of the year.

We'd have sucked even worse with Udeh and Zuby, but we'd have been better on defense. So instead of getting blown out 85 to 65 we'd get blown out 75 to 55.

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:51 pm I hope Self learned his lesson and never recruits another center that can't rotate on defense. The number one job of a center is to anchor the defense and protect the rim. Hunter doesn't do that

Self needs a shot blocker.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:56 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:52 pm

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:48 pm Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

I am totally flummoxed to hear people say that. Not necessarily because Hunter is the best Big ever, but especially since neither Udeh/Ejiofor distinguished themselves this year.

We scored 9pts in like 16min of the biggest game of the year.

We'd have sucked even worse with Udeh and Zuby, but we'd have been better on defense. So instead of getting blown out 85 to 65 we'd get blown out 75 to 55.

Thanks, I feel better now.

This thread is a bit harsh.

Dude wasn't all we hoped, but he put in some blood sweat and tears for crimson and blue. Good on him for that.

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:58 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:56 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:52 pm

I am totally flummoxed to hear people say that. Not necessarily because Hunter is the best Big ever, but especially since neither Udeh/Ejiofor distinguished themselves this year.

We scored 9pts in like 16min of the biggest game of the year.

We'd have sucked even worse with Udeh and Zuby, but we'd have been better on defense. So instead of getting blown out 85 to 65 we'd get blown out 75 to 55.

Thanks, I feel better now.

Maybe even 65 to 45.

We'd have been less bad on interior defense. Still awful at guarding 3s. And on offense we would have had trouble scoring 50 a game.

ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:02 pm This thread is a bit harsh.

Dude wasn't all we hoped, but he put in some blood sweat and tears for crimson and blue. Good on him for that.

You saw tears? I must have missed the tears.

ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:02 pm This thread is a bit harsh.

Dude wasn't all we hoped, but he put in some blood sweat and tears for crimson and blue. Good on him for that.

Maybe the title. But not how I phrased it.

This dude is one of least likeable Jayhawks (at least to me) I can remember. For me, he rivals Morris twins in that regard.

Vick, Tharpe, Greene all honorable mention.

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:48 pm Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

I don’t but we probably woulda generally had the same season.

No B12 title.
No B12 tourney title.
1st weekend NCAA exit.

And we’d have two upperclassmen bigs next season.

And not have a giant douchebag on our team.

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:06 pm

ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:02 pm This thread is a bit harsh.

Dude wasn't all we hoped, but he put in some blood sweat and tears for crimson and blue. Good on him for that.

Maybe the title. But not how I phrased it.

This dude is one of least likeable Jayhawks (at least to me) I can remember. For me, he rivals Morris twins in that regard.

Vick, Tharpe, Greene all honorable mention.

Fair take. I did say a "bit"...

pdub wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:17 pm

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:48 pm Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

I don’t but we probably woulda generally had the same season.

No B12 title.
No B12 tourney title.
1st weekend NCAA exit.

And we’d have two upperclassmen bigs next season.

That’s the kicker here. Short term potential success at what cost?

It’s hard to say/determine, but yeah, this is why so many of us are at least slightly souring on the college game now.

Fortunately, KU was (mostly) insulated from the one and done era.

Our worst seasons have been trying to plug a transfer or freshman as our top guy.

In order from worst to least worst

1. Dedric year
2. Wiggins year
3. Hunter year

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:52 pm

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:48 pm Self never figured out how to play defense with Hunter in the game.

Also, I prefer Juan having a center he can throw lobs to.

I think we'd have been better this year with Udeh/Ejiofor.

I am totally flummoxed to hear people say that. Not necessarily because Hunter is the best Big ever, but especially since neither Udeh/Ejiofor distinguished themselves this year.

Yeah, but I would like to think they would have progressed better under Self and staff.

Pretty sad seeing so many supposed KU fans shitting all over a second team AA player. Not his fault at all that KU didn't have depth to meet preseason #1 rankings/expectations. He did what was expected of him-scoring and rebounding. Just did not have the shooters around him to make a great team. Yes, his defense was lacking a bit, but Self must have thought the offensive skills and rebounding were worth it.