In this thread, the "experts" own Lobs

[defixione]

Walrus is Rand? Who'd a thunk it?

[ousdahl]

Is that a religious thread thing too?


cuz like, who needs an objective empirical understanding of the world when ya got faith.

[ousdahl]

didn’t this thread used to be called something else?

[Cascadia]

LOL, lobby starting to melt down. Going to be an interesting week.

[Deleted User 89]

lobs reminds me of the half drunk woman that was with rudy during the voting fraud hearings

[Walrus]

Rutgers is just begging to go broke. This is going to cause all kinds of lawsuits.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lif ... r-BB1eXp2g

[Deleted User 89]

why?

vaccines are of all sorts are required for a great many schools

don’t like it?

don’t go

[Walrus]

Two articles that actually question the safety of the vaccines (not conspiracy in case the mods are wondering). They claim it's not conclusive, but it's worth a read.

SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Elicits Cell Signaling in Human Host Cells: Implications for Possible Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccines
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827936/

The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein disrupts the cooperative function of human cardiac pericytes - endothelial cells through CD147 receptor-mediated signalling: a potential non-infective mechanism of COVID-19 microvascular disease
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 1.423721v1

What concerns me most is that if the government really tries to require a vaccine, we're going to see unrest that will make 2020 look like a dress rehearsal. A large percentage of Americans are not going to be fine with allowing America to become like China.

[Deleted User 89]

so, you believe them right up until they say it’s not conclusive



you’re becoming a caricature of yourself

[Sparko]

Considering the mRNA vaccines as been in development for a decade or more, and have been prolifically safe, you are pretty late to the party Lobs. In the event, the J&J vaccine is different and that is also a helpful alternative. But continuing to throw turds in the public health punchbowl is not a good look.

[PhDhawk]

I don't doubt that the spike protein could have signalling effects.

But the protein isn't expressed for very long. The protein gets degraded and so does the mRNA.

So, you'd receive those signals only transiently, and then they go away. If you don't get symptoms quickly, I'm not sure why you'd think this might lead to issues later? These are things that you could test for, since they haven't been found in vaccinated patients, I am going to assume that it's not an issue.

The second paper hasn't been peer reviewed.

[twocoach]

Rutgers is just begging to go broke. This is going to cause all kinds of lawsuits.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lif ... r-BB1eXp2g

My college required me to show proof of MMR vaccines before I was allowed to attend and I don't recall a bunch of lawsuits.

[twocoach]

Two articles that actually question the safety of the vaccines (not conspiracy in case the mods are wondering). They claim it's not conclusive, but it's worth a read.

SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Elicits Cell Signaling in Human Host Cells: Implications for Possible Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccines
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827936/

The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein disrupts the cooperative function of human cardiac pericytes - endothelial cells through CD147 receptor-mediated signalling: a potential non-infective mechanism of COVID-19 microvascular disease
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 1.423721v1

What concerns me most is that if the government really tries to require a vaccine, we're going to see unrest that will make 2020 look like a dress rehearsal. A large percentage of Americans are not going to be fine with allowing America to become like China.

1) What would "the government" be requiring us to have vaccines to do?
2) Is there any logical, credible reason to believe "the government" is going to attempt to require vaccines for something specific?
3) What does #1 or #2 have to do with China? Does China require their citizens to get vaccines to do certain things or was "turning into China" just the scariest thing you could think of?

[Deleted User 89]

lobs is trying to foment outrage for policies that have been in place for years, both here in the US and in numerous countries across the globe

but, these points have already been brought up, by myself and others

he’s just not intellectually honest enough to see the reality of the situation

[Deleted User 89]

for lobs: https://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/view ... nto_facpub

[zsn]

I have an assignment for you lobs- please read the package insert for the first ten drugs you come across whose generic name ends in -inib. Pay particular attention to the known side effects and the level of prevalence. Then compare to vaccine.

Does the phrase risk-reward equation mean anything

[zsn]

Trad- you think lobs has a 61 TOEFL score?

[Deleted User 89]

lmao

[defixione]

Trad- you think lobs has a 61 TOEFL score?

His intellectual acumen precludes his need for a TOEFL score.

[japhy]

When you self score 110% for intellectual honesty, no other numbers matter.