The Travel Thread

[ousdahl]

“Hey baby, are you a 737?

Cuz you’ve got a few screws loose and you look like you’d suck me off.”

[TDub]

omg have you considered a career in stand up? I bet that kills with the bumble babes. hilarious, as always.

[Overlander]

I like trains.

me too

the wife and i took the old steam train from Hill City to Keystone a couple years ago and it was fantastic

the steam trains are super cool

But, SOUL Trains are the funnest

[TDub]

me too

the wife and i took the old steam train from Hill City to Keystone a couple years ago and it was fantastic

the steam trains are super cool

But, SOUL Trains are the funnest

https://youtu.be/lODBVM802H8?si=FPmu8eELFiIS7Qf_


I'm sad I missed the 70s.

[Overlander]

I barely missed them.
I can definitely picture Defix in those platform shoes…throwing down those delicious moves!

[zsn]

Boeing 737 loses external panel mid-flight, lands safely in Oregon in latest plane incident

https://nypost.com/2024/03/15/us-news/b ... id-flight/

The frightening mishap marks at least the seventh incident involving a Boeing plane in the last two weeks.

WTAF?

It's impossible to keep up. (Not kidding!)

Boeing going down the tubes isn't an option, it's too vital. But...

is it though?

if they scaled down focused on quality like they used to, and provided high quality products to the military and to vital operations to keep transportation of goods and what not moving. But, significantly scaled back the planes available for commercial flights....would that be all bad?

We generally don't need to fly as an absolute necessity.

This latest kerfuffle isn’t a Boeing problem. It’s an airlines problem, specifically US carriers. This is not like the MAX autopilot issue.

I have flown over a million miles all told (I’m about a hundred thousand miles short of Million Miler status on United and have had 1K status continuously since 2015) and my wife is trained as an aircraft maintenance engineer, although her specialty is helicopters. So I have somewhat of a different perspective.

Most of the world’s operators fly predominantly Boeing fleet and the only ones with issues are United, Alaska etc. Southwest is an all-Boeing fleet but no significant issues. Panels aren’t falling off Lufthansa or Qantas planes. This one isn’t a manufacturing problem. It’s a maintenance problem. I wouldn’t venture a guess as to the reason but airlines need to look inward.

Btw, I love all trains - steam to high speed. I have been on TGV, Italo, thalys, IC, AVE, Shinkansen and just a few weeks ago, the China High Speed Rail at 310 kph.

[Shirley]

WTAF?

It's impossible to keep up. (Not kidding!)

Boeing going down the tubes isn't an option, it's too vital. But...

is it though?

if they scaled down focused on quality like they used to, and provided high quality products to the military and to vital operations to keep transportation of goods and what not moving. But, significantly scaled back the planes available for commercial flights....would that be all bad?

We generally don't need to fly as an absolute necessity.

This latest kerfuffle isn’t a Boeing problem. It’s an airlines problem, specifically US carriers. This is not like the MAX autopilot issue.

I have flown over a million miles all told (I’m about a hundred thousand miles short of Million Miler status on United and have had 1K status continuously since 2015) and my wife is trained as an aircraft maintenance engineer, although her specialty is helicopters. So I have somewhat of a different perspective.

Most of the world’s operators fly predominantly Boeing fleet and the only ones with issues are United, Alaska etc. Southwest is an all-Boeing fleet but no significant issues. Panels aren’t falling off Lufthansa or Qantas planes. This one isn’t a manufacturing problem. It’s a maintenance problem. I wouldn’t venture a guess as to the reason but airlines need to look inward.

Btw, I love all trains - steam to high speed. I have been on TGV, Italo, thalys, IC, AVE, Shinkansen and just a few weeks ago, the China High Speed Rail at 310 kph.

Wow, a family of over-achievers! (Speaking for myself, I always find intelligence in females very winsome, until or unless it isn't.)

Is the word you're looking for Spirit AeroSystems, perchance?

Did you know? Spirit AeroSystems’ headquarters in Wichita, Kan., spans more than 600 acres, with 12,000 employees in 150 separate buildings. As the world’s largest independent supplier of commercial and defense aerospace structures, we invite you to take a closer look at Where Flight Begins.

[TDub]

WTAF?

It's impossible to keep up. (Not kidding!)

Boeing going down the tubes isn't an option, it's too vital. But...

is it though?

if they scaled down focused on quality like they used to, and provided high quality products to the military and to vital operations to keep transportation of goods and what not moving. But, significantly scaled back the planes available for commercial flights....would that be all bad?

We generally don't need to fly as an absolute necessity.

This latest kerfuffle isn’t a Boeing problem. It’s an airlines problem, specifically US carriers. This is not like the MAX autopilot issue.

I have flown over a million miles all told (I’m about a hundred thousand miles short of Million Miler status on United and have had 1K status continuously since 2015) and my wife is trained as an aircraft maintenance engineer, although her specialty is helicopters. So I have somewhat of a different perspective.

Most of the world’s operators fly predominantly Boeing fleet and the only ones with issues are United, Alaska etc. Southwest is an all-Boeing fleet but no significant issues. Panels aren’t falling off Lufthansa or Qantas planes. This one isn’t a manufacturing problem. It’s a maintenance problem. I wouldn’t venture a guess as to the reason but airlines need to look inward.

Btw, I love all trains - steam to high speed. I have been on TGV, Italo, thalys, IC, AVE, Shinkansen and just a few weeks ago, the China High Speed Rail at 310 kph.

I think thats all good information and perspective that I don't have. But, I still don't think it addresses my point of view, which is, we don't need to fly so much. We can scale back on commercial airline flights in general. How many flights fly half empty in order to Maintain their slots at airports? there's a lot of consumption and waste in the airline industry.

[zsn]

Since travel resumed post pandemic I haven’t been on a flight which has had more than a few empty seats, let alone half full flights. I can’t remember the last time there was an empty seat next to me.

[zsn]

Is the word you're looking for Spirit AeroSystems, perchance?

Did you know? Spirit AeroSystems’ headquarters in Wichita, Kan., spans more than 600 acres, with 12,000 employees in 150 separate buildings. As the world’s largest independent supplier of commercial and defense aerospace structures, we invite you to take a closer look at Where Flight Begins.

You’re always too kind! Never knew about Spirit AeroSystems! I should look into it more.

[MICHHAWK]

the airline industry is on the shortlist for biggest scumbag villian on the planet.

[Shirley]

Is the word you're looking for Spirit AeroSystems, perchance?

Did you know? Spirit AeroSystems’ headquarters in Wichita, Kan., spans more than 600 acres, with 12,000 employees in 150 separate buildings. As the world’s largest independent supplier of commercial and defense aerospace structures, we invite you to take a closer look at Where Flight Begins.

You’re always too kind! Never knew about Spirit AeroSystems! I should look into it more.

Well, I'm from Wichita back when it was Boeing's headquarters and had tens of thousands of employees, long before Boeing moved to Seattle and spun Spirit off. Of course, now they're in talks to buy it back, so they can control quality.

[defixione]

I barely missed them.
I can definitely picture Defix in those platform shoes…throwing down those delicious moves!

Nailed it.

[TDub]

Is the word you're looking for Spirit AeroSystems, perchance?

Did you know? Spirit AeroSystems’ headquarters in Wichita, Kan., spans more than 600 acres, with 12,000 employees in 150 separate buildings. As the world’s largest independent supplier of commercial and defense aerospace structures, we invite you to take a closer look at Where Flight Begins.

You’re always too kind! Never knew about Spirit AeroSystems! I should look into it more.

Well, I'm from Wichita back when it was Boeing's headquarters and had tens of thousands of employees, long before Boeing moved to Seattle and spun Spirit off. Of course, now they're in talks to buy it back, so they can control quality.

im more of a beechcraft guy myself. Grandfather had 45 years there

[Shirley]

You’re always too kind! Never knew about Spirit AeroSystems! I should look into it more.

Well, I'm from Wichita back when it was Boeing's headquarters and had tens of thousands of employees, long before Boeing moved to Seattle and spun Spirit off. Of course, now they're in talks to buy it back, so they can control quality.

im more of a beechcraft guy myself. Grandfather had 45 years there

45 years. Hard to imagine, especially these days.

[TDub]

Well, I'm from Wichita back when it was Boeing's headquarters and had tens of thousands of employees, long before Boeing moved to Seattle and spun Spirit off. Of course, now they're in talks to buy it back, so they can control quality.

im more of a beechcraft guy myself. Grandfather had 45 years there

45 years. Hard to imagine, especially these days.

I think I have his 40 year watch somewhere.

[TDub]

hey look at that...another airline safety whistleblower, shockingly, has died.

This time Spirit Airlines. How unlucky that he contracted a "fast spreading, uncontainable infection" after he revealed the violations.



How many times do we bail out airlines just to have them nit follow the guidelines.

Let them fail. Passenger airlines are not a necessity. I understand that it would change.....everything. But maybe a slight step back toward simple isn't the worst thing.

[TDub]

the more I think about this the more unacceptable it is to me.

[Shirley]

the more I think about this the more unacceptable it is to me.

Your opinion, though not invalid, would likely carry more weight if you didn't have a horse and buggyesque view when it comes to transportation.

[DrPepper]

Let them fail. They only get by financially because we give them the sky for free. We should be investing our efforts, brains, space, and money in something a lot more sustainable and efficient. Speed is no longer that important since humans being there in person is no longer required the vast majority of things that we used to assume it was. We will adapt. Organ donations are already expensive, so tack on some more money. And, darn, I might just have to eat less sushi because the price is going up. Fresh cut flowers? Nope, don't need them flown in from the other side of the world.