Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:19 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:57 pm Orrrr. Its just not wise to let a foreign people invade your land.

All humans can be violent and you shouldn't put too much trust in them

It really is remarkable that your ignorance sweeps through so many categories.
It's not specialized to, say, Presidential candidates.
A LeBron James of ignorance, able to play every position and for years and years.

The GOAT?

Both those statements you quoted are completely accurate tho

randy with another behind the back pass for ignorance - and it's still the first quarter.

The thing for the rubes to consider, culture is not a zero sum game. It expands and changes. Some, like native American cultures survive in spite of genocide and a multi government policy geared towards extinction of the culture. Some run out of gas and end up in the ditch on the side of the raid of history.

"Kill the Indian in him, and save the man."

It's a powerful human drive to want to save your culture.

But if you understand that there isn't a limit on culture, you should be able to accept that other cultures exist and feel neutral about their celebration. The reasons to fear for your culture is if it is built on false beliefs and brings no spiritual uplift to the participants, or if it gets hijacked by bad faith actors and becomes associated with ugly historical events. If your culture is strong you don't need to worry about "your people" walking away and embracing other cultures, never to return.

Unless you think that celebrating another culture takes away from yours, there is no reason to be triggered.





This is an indigenous artist whose work I love, Gregg Deal. He lives not far from me in the Springs. We own a painting of his. He painted this mural in downtown Colorado Springs, I think he calls it "Take Back The Power", the girl in the image is his daughter. If you are ever in the Springs you should check it out. He uses a lot old punk music lyrics in his work. We have talked about it and we listened to the same music as kids. We both have respect for the work of Ian MacKaye.



It's a song by Wire, but I like the Minor Threat version for Ian's addition of the line "flex your head".

The same deep state government that you libs seem to love trust and vote for were literally sterilizing native Americans as recently as.... the 70s

Drank many beers across the street from there at Phantom Canyon Brewery back in the day long before that went up. I miss the Springs; maybe some day I end up living back there again for a third time.

Beautiful mural. What is happening with so many indigenous girls and women going missing is so heartbreaking. People are clearly preying on them and too many white people just simply do not care. And the vast majority of these cases are in rural areas of GOP states where they are surrounding by a high percentage of allegedly "pro lifers".

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:12 am The same deep state government that you libs seem to love trust and vote for were literally sterilizing native Americans as recently as.... the 70s

We don't love and trust the government blindly. We're just not morons who make up ridiculous stories.

Randy, cutting off his nose to spite his face.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:13 am Drank many beers across the street from there at Phantom Canyon Brewery back in the day long before that went up. I miss the Springs; maybe some day I end up living back there again for a third time.

Beautiful mural. What is happening with so many indigenous girls and women going missing is so heartbreaking. People are clearly preying on them and too many white people just simply do not care. And the vast majority of these cases are in rural areas of GOP states where they are surrounding by a high percentage of allegedly "pro lifers".

I think it is interesting that you automatically blame White Republican males for the missing women and girls. A more logical explanation might be the rampant human trafficking of Mexican cartels that has been facilitated by Giggles and Brandon's wide open/no accountability border policies. I've never met anyone in the many rural Red State areas I have lived in my lifetime who thought that trafficking was good or even acceptable. No one in this country (legally) wants it. It comes from without and needs to be stopped at the border.

somebody doesn’t know what “logic” means

i thought maybe we could get through a day without hate, bigotry and xenophobia…

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:13 am Drank many beers across the street from there at Phantom Canyon Brewery back in the day long before that went up. I miss the Springs; maybe some day I end up living back there again for a third time.

Beautiful mural. What is happening with so many indigenous girls and women going missing is so heartbreaking. People are clearly preying on them and too many white people just simply do not care. And the vast majority of these cases are in rural areas of GOP states where they are surrounding by a high percentage of allegedly "pro lifers".

I think it is interesting that you automatically blame White Republican males for the missing women and girls. A more logical explanation might be the rampant human trafficking of Mexican cartels that has been facilitated by Giggles and Brandon's wide open/no accountability border policies. I've never met anyone in the many rural Red State areas I have lived in my lifetime who thought that trafficking was good or even acceptable. No one in this country (legally) wants it. It comes from without and needs to be stopped at the border.

And I think it is interesting that you think what I said, which was just that it is happening around them and they don't seem to care despite their claims of being pro lifers, that I meant that white republican males were committing the crimes.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit because you can't seem to put your own assumptions and biases aside and just read the fucking words that were typed.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:42 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:13 am Drank many beers across the street from there at Phantom Canyon Brewery back in the day long before that went up. I miss the Springs; maybe some day I end up living back there again for a third time.

Beautiful mural. What is happening with so many indigenous girls and women going missing is so heartbreaking. People are clearly preying on them and too many white people just simply do not care. And the vast majority of these cases are in rural areas of GOP states where they are surrounding by a high percentage of allegedly "pro lifers".

I think it is interesting that you automatically blame White Republican males for the missing women and girls. A more logical explanation might be the rampant human trafficking of Mexican cartels that has been facilitated by Giggles and Brandon's wide open/no accountability border policies. I've never met anyone in the many rural Red State areas I have lived in my lifetime who thought that trafficking was good or even acceptable. No one in this country (legally) wants it. It comes from without and needs to be stopped at the border.

And I think it is interesting that you think what I said, which was just that it is happening around them and they don't seem to care despite their claims of being pro lifers, that I meant that white republican males were committing the crimes.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit because you can't seem to put your own assumptions and biases aside and just read the fucking words that were typed.

I read and comprehended fully.

I find your assumption that no one cares, specious and offensive. To the contrary, we DO care, and we are demanding that steps be taken to stop it, i.e. shutting down the border and deporting those here illegally. It is YOUR side of the aisle that apparently doesn't care, aside from hand-wringing and finger-pointing.

There was a performance by Chacon at JCCC couple of years ago. Sadly I missed it.

All I know is when the left tries to cancel Thanksgiving too, we're still eating good in my house

So all the illegal immigrants aren't affecting your life?

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:47 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:42 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:18 am

I think it is interesting that you automatically blame White Republican males for the missing women and girls. A more logical explanation might be the rampant human trafficking of Mexican cartels that has been facilitated by Giggles and Brandon's wide open/no accountability border policies. I've never met anyone in the many rural Red State areas I have lived in my lifetime who thought that trafficking was good or even acceptable. No one in this country (legally) wants it. It comes from without and needs to be stopped at the border.

And I think it is interesting that you think what I said, which was just that it is happening around them and they don't seem to care despite their claims of being pro lifers, that I meant that white republican males were committing the crimes.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit because you can't seem to put your own assumptions and biases aside and just read the fucking words that were typed.

I read and comprehended fully.

I find your assumption that no one cares, specious and offensive. To the contrary, we DO care, and we are demanding that steps be taken to stop it, i.e. shutting down the border and deporting those here illegally. It is YOUR side of the aisle that apparently doesn't care, aside from hand-wringing and finger-pointing.

You wag your finger at me for assuming that it was white Republican men that committed these crimes and then proceed to assume that it is illegal immigrants kidnapping them into human trafficking. You're quite the piece of work. So telling.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... %20records.

This is what I am actually talking about.

"In 2018, the Urban Indian Health Institute released a report documenting hundreds of cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across 71 US cities. More than 150 of the cases they found were not included in law enforcement records.

Its authors determined that more than 95% of the cases in the report had not received coverage by a national or international news agencies."

Real proof that the people we need to care about these cases, the local police and media, just simply don't.

But sure, beat your same old drum like you're "doing something".

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:01 am All I know is when the left tries to cancel Thanksgiving too, we're still eating good in my house

Thanksgiving stealers are today's boogeyman? Nice. Seems like I have almost made it through yet another 4 year term of a Democratic President without Christmas being cancelled. So strange since I was told so many times how they were going to get rid of it.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:09 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:47 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:42 am

And I think it is interesting that you think what I said, which was just that it is happening around them and they don't seem to care despite their claims of being pro lifers, that I meant that white republican males were committing the crimes.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit because you can't seem to put your own assumptions and biases aside and just read the fucking words that were typed.

I read and comprehended fully.

I find your assumption that no one cares, specious and offensive. To the contrary, we DO care, and we are demanding that steps be taken to stop it, i.e. shutting down the border and deporting those here illegally. It is YOUR side of the aisle that apparently doesn't care, aside from hand-wringing and finger-pointing.

You wag your finger at me for assuming that it was white Republican men that committed these crimes and then proceed to assume that it is illegal immigrants kidnapping them into human trafficking. You're quite the piece of work. So telling.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... %20records.

This is what I am actually talking about.

"In 2018, the Urban Indian Health Institute released a report documenting hundreds of cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across 71 US cities. More than 150 of the cases they found were not included in law enforcement records.

Its authors determined that more than 95% of the cases in the report had not received coverage by a national or international news agencies."

Real proof that the people we need to care about these cases, the local police and media, just simply don't.

But sure, beat your same old drum like you're "doing something".

And none of that disproves my contention. You can chase symptoms or cure the disease. I know which one I would choose.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:09 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:47 am

I read and comprehended fully.

I find your assumption that no one cares, specious and offensive. To the contrary, we DO care, and we are demanding that steps be taken to stop it, i.e. shutting down the border and deporting those here illegally. It is YOUR side of the aisle that apparently doesn't care, aside from hand-wringing and finger-pointing.

You wag your finger at me for assuming that it was white Republican men that committed these crimes and then proceed to assume that it is illegal immigrants kidnapping them into human trafficking. You're quite the piece of work. So telling.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... %20records.

This is what I am actually talking about.

"In 2018, the Urban Indian Health Institute released a report documenting hundreds of cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across 71 US cities. More than 150 of the cases they found were not included in law enforcement records.

Its authors determined that more than 95% of the cases in the report had not received coverage by a national or international news agencies."

Real proof that the people we need to care about these cases, the local police and media, just simply don't.

But sure, beat your same old drum like you're "doing something".

And none of that disproves my contention. You can chase symptoms or cure the disease. I know which one I would choose.

When you ASSume...

I have seen her work many times. She used to come to KC, she worked with a printmaking studio in the Belger Arts Building to produce her lithographs.

https://whitney.org/exhibitions/jaune-q ... ?section=4