Kansas Crimson

I do hope OKC offers Graham so he doesn't take any kind of hometown discount.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 pm

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:30 pm Isn't Lonzo a FA? Saw something that had him showing a lot of interest in signing an offer sheet from Chicago.

He's RFA, so not much he can do to prevent a sign and trade.

True, but it's unlikely NO would match a 4 yr/$80+ million offer.

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:37 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 pm

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:30 pm Isn't Lonzo a FA? Saw something that had him showing a lot of interest in signing an offer sheet from Chicago.

He's RFA, so not much he can do to prevent a sign and trade.

True, but it's unlikely NO would match a 4 yr/$80+ million offer.

Well I think the question is if Charlotte would want Lonzo at that price.

I don't see why anyone would want Lonzo at that price, lol. MJ has made some questionable front office decisions in his day, so I shouldn't act surprised if it does happen. I just don't see why you would pay him that much to play behind his brother.

Yeah, seems like the motivation is not being driven by on-the-court production.

Lonzo signs a contract with Chicago the second free agency opens. No tampering at all, I'm sure.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:13 pm Lonzo signs a contract with Chicago the second free agency opens. No tampering at all, I'm sure.

Sign and trade i think. Teams have been working behind the scenes.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:16 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:13 pm Lonzo signs a contract with Chicago the second free agency opens. No tampering at all, I'm sure.

Sign and trade i think. Teams have been working behind the scenes.

That makes more sense--I didn't see that detail in the woj bomb.

Still, someone tell me with a straight face that Lonzo hasn't spoken with Chicago before 6 EDT today.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:26 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:16 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:13 pm Lonzo signs a contract with Chicago the second free agency opens. No tampering at all, I'm sure.

Sign and trade i think. Teams have been working behind the scenes.

That makes more sense--I didn't see that detail in the woj bomb.

Still, someone tell me with a straight face that Lonzo hasn't spoken with Chicago before 6 EDT today.

New orleans has absolutely been speaking with chicago. Probably even before the draft.

Guess it means a good chance Graham sticks in Charlotte.

I don't think they'd stick with Rozier past the AS break. Ball-Graham-Bouknight core for the backcourt for one contract.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:35 pm Guess it means a good chance Graham sticks in Charlotte.

I don't think they'd stick with Rozier past the AS break. Ball-Graham-Bouknight core for the backcourt for one contract.

Bouknight makes me think the exact opposite. Tbh, i think Graham will get an offer above Charlottes QO and they won't match it.

I don't think Charlotte was ever actually going after Lonzo. Just doesn't make sense.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:44 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:35 pm Guess it means a good chance Graham sticks in Charlotte.

I don't think they'd stick with Rozier past the AS break. Ball-Graham-Bouknight core for the backcourt for one contract.

Bouknight makes me think the exact opposite. Tbh, i think Graham will get an offer above Charlottes QO and they won't match it.

I don't think Charlotte was ever actually going after Lonzo. Just doesn't make sense.

Pretty clear, though, that Monk not being retained had a ton to do with Bouknight falling in the draft.

Rozier is too old/expensive to extend beyond this season.

Of course Graham will get an offer about the QO, but I have a hard time believing that Charlotte is going to find a better deal on the open market. Not to mention the familiarity with the coach/system, etc. that Graham already has. Unless the offer is astronomically high (and good for Devonte' then!), I see Charlotte matching.

Cam Payne goes for 3/$19m

McConnell goes for 4/$35m

If OKC offers Graham, I'd guess something like 4/$40 based on those contracts. I think CHA wants a hometown discount of less than $10m/year.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:55 pm Cam Payne goes for 3/$19m

McConnell goes for 4/$35m

If OKC offers Graham, I'd guess something like 4/$40 based on those contracts. I think CHA wants a hometown discount of less than $10m/year.

Charlotte clearly favored Ball and Rozier this year. I don't get it. Especially not Rozier.

Well Rozier actually played pretty damn well this year, and Graham and Ball had injury issues pretty much all season, so they needed all of those guards just to get through the season.

But, Rozier has no place in Charlotte's long-term plans with his contract expiring. I actually read a conjecture that the Lonzo rumors was Charlotte trying to kill Devonte's value on the open market. Basically trying to say they will match any offer and flip him, so don't even bother coming in with aggressive offers.

12 Devonte' Graham (26) PG RFA
15 Kelly Oubre Jr. (25) SG UFA
in CBS top 2021 NBA Free Agents list on CBS sports. Sorry I don't know how to link the article.

BIFM signed with Philly for the Summer League. Hope he owns it.

DTae got PAID

Awesome. Good for him. I like the fit. And will be on tv a lot.