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Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:10 pm
by shindig
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:16 pm
shindig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:07 pm
ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:30 am
OK. Now this is starting to feel familiar...
Self probably interviewing for a new gig in the B1G...man that would really suck right now.
why you even gotta go there?
lol. But if KU isn't in a P5 or P4 conference, you think Self sticks around? I'm betting not.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:23 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Big 12 going after ESPN. Good luck.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:25 pm
by Deleted User 89
uh...it’s a little late, bob
you don’t build a fire station in the midst of an inferno
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:53 pm
by Sparko
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:25 pm
uh...it’s a little late, bob
you don’t build a fire station in the midst of an inferno
Restitution might make sense. ESPN was definitely behind this and have been MFs about KU on the air. Bilas didn't just throw out his super conference idea. The original BCS was going this route. But actual harm to a conference and other sports networks with documented evidence is not nothing.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:27 pm
by InfiniteJ
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:23 pm
Big 12 going after ESPN. Good luck.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:43 pm
by ChalkRocker
shindig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:10 pm
lol. But if KU isn't in a P5 or P4 conference, you think Self sticks around? I'm betting not.
Maybe. But there's a (few?) dozen prestige prgms in non-P5 connys now,and a handful more if the Big 12 shattered.
I wonder if we'd be wise (as a conference) to sit tight a bit and avoid the urge to flinch.
Same time, I think we're okay wherever we land. so that's my starting point
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:05 pm
by ChalkRocker
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:27 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:23 pm
Big 12 going after ESPN. Good luck.
is this true?
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:43 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:05 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:27 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:23 pm
Big 12 going after ESPN. Good luck.
is this true?
Is what true? The letter is real and Bowlsby is referencing evidence he received that ESPN has been in the past few days speaking with AAC about going after the Little 8.
Bowlsby's threat here, though, seems so empty. The end game is what exactly? Cease and desist or we will rip up our telecast contract with ESPN? Be careful what you wish for. Hell, someone like TCU would have to be ecstatic over a AAC-Little 8 merger.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:12 pm
by ChalkRocker
...and the nutty sig?
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:21 pm
by ChalkRocker
My point being that, imo, Bowlsby doesn't write that ltr w/o the concurrence (urging?) of the remaining eight.
Was he in agreement that it should be sent, or did he reluctantly place it over his name?
Was that scrawl suggestive of anything, or are we all, including our commish, a united front, pursuing a reckless or ballsy approach*?
*depending on yr view
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm
by Sparko
We don't know what the evidence is yet--but it wasn't just the last few days, it involved a scheme to recruit UT and OU to the SEC and work around them having to pay any exit fees.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:12 am
by ousdahl
ChalkRocker wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:12 pm
...and the nutty sig?
Ruttttttwy, II
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:15 am
by ousdahl
I can’t believe it took 27 pages for me to get in on this, and that’s all I had
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:20 am
by Deleted User 863
Sparko wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm
We don't know what the evidence is yet--but it wasn't just the last few days, it involved a scheme to recruit UT and OU to the SEC and work around them having to pay any exit fees.
The scheme is working perfectly. Those 2 are all but a lock for SEC...and now the remaining big 12 schools are going to scramble to find a better home and it'll possibly result in one of the remaining teams (us?) eating the fee so they can move before 2025.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:36 am
by jfish26
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:20 am
Sparko wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm
We don't know what the evidence is yet--but it wasn't just the last few days, it involved a scheme to recruit UT and OU to the SEC and work around them having to pay any exit fees.
The scheme is working perfectly. Those 2 are all but a lock for SEC...and now the remaining big 12 schools are going to scramble to find a better home and it'll possibly result in one of the remaining teams (us?) eating the fee so they can move before 2025.
I sure hope we're looking out for ourselves and ourselves only. And that we'd leap at a B1G offer, even if it's painful.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:45 am
by Deleted User 863
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:36 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:20 am
Sparko wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm
We don't know what the evidence is yet--but it wasn't just the last few days, it involved a scheme to recruit UT and OU to the SEC and work around them having to pay any exit fees.
The scheme is working perfectly. Those 2 are all but a lock for SEC...and now the remaining big 12 schools are going to scramble to find a better home and it'll possibly result in one of the remaining teams (us?) eating the fee so they can move before 2025.
I sure hope we're looking out for ourselves and ourselves only. And that we'd leap at a B1G offer, even if it's painful.
That article about espn trying to influence the merger with AAC makes me think the BIG10 may be a longshot.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:57 am
by jfish26
Possible! But I think we should be trying. I do not think a salvaged "Big 12" is viable.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:02 am
by shindig
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:57 am
Possible! But I think we should be trying. I do not think a salvaged "Big 12" is viable.
What teams would you try to add? I would love to get Nebraska, Missouri and Arkansas, but I know that ain't happening, even if Nebraska and Arkansas aren't happy in their respective conferences, the money they make would be too hard to turn away from.
I don't want any more TX schools like Houston or SMU. Done with Texas. Do you try to get the Buffs back from the PAC12? Or do we just go all in and go after Wichita State...lol.
Edit: Sorry I thought you said the Big 12 was viable.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:04 am
by MICHHAWK
if one conference is going to "fold into" the other, why would the BIG 12 become the aac? and not the other way around?
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:10 am
by jfish26
shindig wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:02 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:57 am
Possible! But I think we should be trying. I do not think a salvaged "Big 12" is viable.
What teams would you try to add? I would love to get Nebraska, Missouri and Arkansas, but I know that ain't happening, even if Nebraska and Arkansas aren't happy in their respective conferences, the money they make would be too hard to turn away from.
I don't want any more TX schools like Houston or SMU. Done with Texas. Do you try to get the Buffs back from the PAC12? Or do we just go all in and go after Wichita State...lol.
Edit: Sorry I thought you said the Big 12 was viable.
Right, I don't want to add anyone. I want out. A Big 12 that is saved, but worse, is just going through this again.
We need to - ugh - learn from Mizzou here. If you can find your spot, get it.