Kansas Crimson

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:53 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:26 pm So, according to CDC data, we’re flushing our economy down the toilet to protect a small demographic that can easily and reasonably be protected without screwing the rest of us: https://static.wnd.com/wp-content/uploa ... 200519.jpg

To summarize:

Student (age 6-18) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 0.0001% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of 0.0005% in 2018.

Workforce (age 19-55) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of .01% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of .007% in 2018.

Retired (age 66-77) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 1% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of .05% over the same period.

Geriatric (age 78-up) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 4% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of .3% over the same period.

Fear porn assumes that people will believe the “mainstream” media, choose not to think for themselves, and meekly submit to the government’s attempts to trample their Constitutional rights and steal their futures. Enough is already too much.

That's because mitigation is working.

You'd need to know percentages of deaths if nothing was done to know if it was worth it.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:59 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:53 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:26 pm So, according to CDC data, we’re flushing our economy down the toilet to protect a small demographic that can easily and reasonably be protected without screwing the rest of us: https://static.wnd.com/wp-content/uploa ... 200519.jpg

To summarize:

Student (age 6-18) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 0.0001% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of 0.0005% in 2018.

Workforce (age 19-55) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of .01% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of .007% in 2018.

Retired (age 66-77) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 1% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of .05% over the same period.

Geriatric (age 78-up) deaths from COVID-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 4% as a percentage of their peers. They died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of .3% over the same period.

Fear porn assumes that people will believe the “mainstream” media, choose not to think for themselves, and meekly submit to the government’s attempts to trample their Constitutional rights and steal their futures. Enough is already too much.

That's because mitigation is working.

You'd need to know percentages of deaths if nothing was done to know if it was worth it.

And we would know that how? Serious question, ‘cause the statistical models that Fauci seems to be relying on aren’t worth a crap.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:12 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:59 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:53 pm
That's because mitigation is working.

You'd need to know percentages of deaths if nothing was done to know if it was worth it.

And we would know that how? Serious question, ‘cause the statistical models that Fauci seems to be relying on aren’t worth a crap.

Don't know.

But doing it how you did is like having a guy who's 100 lbs overweight, has high bp, etc. So he looses 100 lbs, never has a heart attack and then saying all that diet and exercise was a waste.

The latest projection I heard for infections without mitigation was 30 million Americans.
So, that's about a 20 fold increase.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:05 pm Most people value life over money.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:39 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:05 pm Most people value life over money.

The quality of life you have also depends to varying degrees on whether or not you have money. If I have a choice between death and living in a Third World situation, I'm probably going with death.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:50 am

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:39 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:05 pm Most people value life over money.

The quality of life you have also depends to varying degrees on whether or not you have money. If I have a choice between death and living in a Third World situation, I'm probably going with death.

I dont think we are in danger of becoming a 3rd world situation.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:05 pm Most people value life over money.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:53 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:05 pm Most people value life over money.

Therein lies a good portion of the problem. The simpletons have been brainwashed into believing it’s one or the other. They convinced the simpletons that if we don’t Kill the economy the virus will wipe out humanity.

This whole thing has been an eye opener.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:53 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:50 am

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:39 am

The quality of life you have also depends to varying degrees on whether or not you have money. If I have a choice between death and living in a Third World situation, I'm probably going with death.

I dont think we are in danger of becoming a 3rd world situation.

He lives in rural Kansas, so he's not far off.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:58 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:53 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:50 am

I dont think we are in danger of becoming a 3rd world situation.

He lives in rural Kansas, so he's not far off.

A country boy can survive.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:53 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:50 am

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:39 am

The quality of life you have also depends to varying degrees on whether or not you have money. If I have a choice between death and living in a Third World situation, I'm probably going with death.

I dont think we are in danger of becoming a 3rd world situation.

He lives in rural Kansas, so he's not far off.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:59 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:58 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:53 am

He lives in rural Kansas, so he's not far off.

A country boy can survive.

Well, judging by all the bitching and moaning, apparently not.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 12:04 pm I guess we’re gonna find out what the long term fallout is to our “at any cost“ approach to virus fighting.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 12:02 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:53 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 11:50 am

I dont think we are in danger of becoming a 3rd world situation.

He lives in rural Kansas, so he's not far off.

Wrong. People here are doing much better overall than those in major metro areas. I’d rather be in a county with 8 active cases and no deaths any day of the week. If I want to go to the city, it’s a relatively short drive, and I can leave the nastiness when I’m done working, shopping, eating, etc.

Contrast that with my friends in metro KC who are leaving the house once per week and only then wearing a mask and gloves, and I’ll take rural living every time.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 12:11 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 12:04 pm I guess we’re gonna find out what the long term fallout is to our “at any cost“ approach to virus fighting.

What? I...I think this is very obviously (again) pointed 180 degrees away from the truth.

We're about to find out what the long term fallout is to the "the virus is over because I'm bored and say so" approach to virus fighting.